Node.js Foundation Core Technical Committee (CTC) Meeting 2017-02-08

[Trott]

Time

UTC Wed 08-Feb-2017 05:00:

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Links

• Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SpZLv7htYUWEFyNp0-8FGlyyBVCbboRWzOfkRG8UteM
• Previous Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AQWL7iqMtnlhE3ylrc1d55lxVrisl-pjKKwIqP1al10

Agenda

Extracted from ctc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

nodejs/node

• [WIP] meta: update copyright statements #10599
• [WIP] Restore copyright attribution #10155
• lib: be robust when process global is clobbered #10135
• http: support environment-defined proxy #8381

nodejs/TSC

• Updating the Copyright #174

nodejs/node-eps

• Rewrite 002 - esm #39

Invited

• Anna Henningsen @addaleax (CTC)
• Bradley Meck @bmeck (observer/GoDaddy/TC39)
• Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC)
• Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (CTC)
• Chris Dickinson @chrisdickinson (CTC)
• Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC)
• Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC)
• Franziska Hinkelmann @fhinkel (Google/observer)
• Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC)
• Tracy Hinds @hackygolucky (observer/Node.js Foundation)
• Fedor Indutny @indutny (CTC)
• James M Snell @jasnell (CTC)
• Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft)
• Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC)
• Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC)
• Mikeal Rogers @mikeal (observer/Node.js Foundation)
• Brian White @mscdex (CTC)
• Myles Borins @MylesBorins (CTC)
• Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC)
• Jenn Turner @renrutnnej (observer/Node.js Foundation)
• Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC)
• Seth Thompson @s3ththompson (observer/Google)
• Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki (CTC)
• Steven R Loomis @srl295 (observer/IBM/ICU)
• Michaël Zasso @targos (CTC)
• Sakthipriyan Vairamani @thefourtheye (CTC)
• Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC)
• Rich Trott @Trott (CTC)

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with ctc-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

Uberconference; participants should have the link & numbers, contact me if you don't.

Public participation

We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators in particular if there's anything you need from the CTC that's not worth putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for it.

[Trott]

Note that this meeting is in approximately 23 hours. Sorry for the shorter-than-usual notice!

[Trott]

Issues labeled ctc-review:

• Changing Definition of "Locked" for Stability Index in API Docs
• lib: deprecate node --debug at runtime
• WIP meta: update copyright statements
• fs: runtime deprecation for fs.SyncWriteStream
• tty: remove NODE_TTY_UNSAFE_ASYNC
• WIP Restore copyright attribution
• Symbol key props visible in inspection by default

[Trott]

The two work-in-progress PRs for copyright attribution are both labeled ctc-agenda and ctc-review. Can I please remove both of those labels? There's already the "Updating the copyright" issue from the TSC repo that is labeled ctc-agenda. Having that issue show up multiple times week after week is getting irksome and making me (and I imagine others) not really take items that show up on the agenda seriously. Like, "Oh, we probably won't even talk about half of these things." This is not good for the health of the meeting IMO.

[Trott]

Some people were adamant last week that async-vs-sync issue around ES modules interoperability would be brought to a vote this week. If you know how you'd like to vote on that (or if you know you'd like to abstain), please indicate in nodejs/node-eps#39. So far, only @targos has cast a vote. Usually @bmeck is the person to ask if you have questions, but they're on vacation and suggested that @Fishrock123 would be a good go-to person in their absence.

[bnoordhuis]

I've removed the ctc-agenda label from nodejs/node#10135. It was discussed two or three weeks ago.

The two work-in-progress PRs for copyright attribution are both labeled ctc-agenda and ctc-review. Can I please remove both of those labels?

Since I was in the process of removing labels anyway, I've removed them from those PRs as well. :-)

[targos]

http: support environment-defined proxy #8381 was also discussed a few weeks ago. I removed the label.

[Trott]

@bnoordhuis @targos Awesome, thanks! That means we have two agenda items for the meeting (async-vs-sync module loader with a vote expected to be called for, and the copyright stuff which is now represented by a single issue).

(@nodejs/ctc There's also the handful of ctc-review issues in the comment above so be sure to check those out.)

[mhdawson]

Not going to be able to make this one given the time.

[misterdjules]

I won't be able to make this meeting. Hopefully I'll get back on track and start attending meetings again next week.

[Trott]

@mhdawson If you could vote or else abstain on the whole async-vs-sync loader issue in nodejs/node-eps#39, that will hopefully help us get resolution faster.

[bnoordhuis]

The meeting is three hours from now and I haven't slept yet so I'm probably going to miss out.

W.r.t. to nodejs/node-eps#39: abstain - I don't have an informed enough opinion yet.

[rvagg]

ditto on the EPS vote, I've abstained in there

[joshgav]

I didn't capture next steps for the copyright stuff, I think they're approximately this:

• James to continue work on node#10599.
• Keep on agenda for next week to review Board’s decisions.

Will put that in the notes for now, but if you have other suggestions chime in here or in the notes PR when I get it opened. Thanks!

[joshgav]

Notes in #69.